Adobe - Wake Up

I was over on Ryan Stewart's Blog reading his latest blog entry about how Adobe wants to charge MAX conference attendees $10 for a poster of a visual map of the class inheritance in Flex and of AS3. Now, this is a conference where the average attendee will spend $1200 to $2000 just to go and additional $$$ for incidentals. So on top of all that, they now have to pony up $20 bucks for posters? Are you kidding me?

Mike Potter and John Dowdell of Adobe try to rationalize this by saying that "attendees will ask for more than one poster" and "its coming out of a technical marketing budget". SO WHAT! For pete's sake, Adobe talks about how they want a million Flex developers in the coming years and now they're getting cheap on posters?? This from one of the largest software makers in the world??? That's pathetic.

This is not a matter of watching the pennies. This is just plain being cheap, especially for such a costly conference. I've attended events from Sybase, Powersoft, & Microsoft where they've given out posters, books, software and cool gadgets all in the name of getting mindshare. Even if nobody bought anything, chances are that they landed several developers that will, down the road, endorse their products.

I have to say that ever since Allaire was acquired by Macromedia, this "squeeze blood from a stone" mentality has persisted and its a shame. People loved Allaire because they made it easy to get the information you needed to be successful.

Luckily, there are a few folks at Adobe that "get it" like Ben Forta and Sean Corfield. They get that us developers need information and that we're not "rich" and that not all of us work for big corporations that have big budgets to arbitrarily buy posters or even attend conferences.

So yes, I find it "PATHETIC" that Adobe would charge MAX attendees who are flying out on their own dime for information. Your marketing department should be ashamed.

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Jacob Robinson's Gravatar I heard they were $1 at The Warp, but I agree - they should be handouts to anyone who registers.
# Posted By Jacob Robinson | 10/18/06 12:24 PM
Rey Bango's Gravatar Someone on Ryan's blog mentioned that they should charge $1 at MAX so that it will disuade the "gimme 20 crowd" from asking for a ton of posters. I think they should be free up to a limit. Have the staff say "limit 2 per attendee" but give them away until the posters are gone.
# Posted By Rey Bango | 10/18/06 12:35 PM
Marc Truitt's Gravatar Adobe really needs to wake up to this if they want to compete with Microsoft. Give the posters away, and allow users to download pdf versions of the posters, so they can print them themselves. You can download product documentation from the adobe website I should be able to download a object poster for quick reference. Adobe needs to work on their developer relations a little more.
# Posted By Marc Truitt | 10/18/06 12:48 PM
Jeff's Gravatar Actually my comments were clipped on MXNA... if you read the full post on my site it says that they are $10 each.
# Posted By Jeff | 10/18/06 12:57 PM
Jeff's Gravatar There are also free PDF versions of the posters available.
# Posted By Jeff | 10/18/06 12:58 PM
Bill Gates's Gravatar I heard that Adobe (formerly Macromedia) doesn't pay their presentors for MAX (or any other conference). The only thing they get free is the conference. The don't get paid for presenting, travel, lodging, entertainment or food.
# Posted By Bill Gates | 10/18/06 1:49 PM
Ted Patrick's Gravatar The posters are free but that is not the whole story. Few realized they were 12" X 4" of API Poster.

More info here:

http://www.onflex.org/ted/2006/10/free-as3-and-fle...

Cheers,

Ted
# Posted By Ted Patrick | 10/18/06 6:46 PM
Xiaolei Shi's Gravatar I find it more ridiculous is that Ryan Stewart actually has an argument this time.
# Posted By Xiaolei Shi | 10/19/06 12:41 AM
Anonymous coward :D's Gravatar I'm not an Adobe staff member, affiliate or anything (not even a big fan). But I can't believe you're talking about this over&over... Who's cheap? Adobe for charging you $10, or the complainers that pay $1200 to $2000 to get there and find $10 for a poster expensive? It's $10 - ten US Dollars... that's affordable even for the Romanian in me :D

I know this is not about the amount, but about wanting a little candy back for all the effort you've made (to get to the conference). Still, the "I want 20" argument is good enough, giving only 2/person still doesn't solve the problem of really cheap people watining in the line 10 times, and more: I find it far, far from being such an important issue that has to be blogged 4-5 times (until now).
# Posted By Anonymous coward :D | 10/19/06 2:47 AM
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